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Rebecca - Obviously, none of us can know what will happen when we do dumb things, and if we had a clue beforehand, we would not do the dumb thing.
You are absolutely right - I know I have made many many dumb mistakes, thank god nothing like this ever happened to me. My heart goes out to you and your family.
All Brittany had to do was say NO! But apparently no is not in her vocabulary from what
I hear.
How in the world can the media twist this around to make it any worse. Very simple, let's take out the fact she was hungover, had been drinking the night before, doesnt matter, put that aside. The fact is two babies are dead that were her responsiblity. So are you saying if the news and media had just printed , two children died on babysitters watch, it wouldnt be so bad, but since the media included the facts, that they are the bad ones now.
Let me start by saying I "DO" know Brittany and have for a very long time. A fact I hate to admit now that I know the "REAL" Brittany. Not the sweet, kind girl she like to portray. I assume you don't know her or you would know that she hasn't lost her family. They were at the hearing in full force trying to convince everyone that she has been paid the price.
I am here to say she has not. Those precious innocent baby girls paid the ultimate price. Because the "adult" who was trusted to protect them did not do her job. They died in one of the most awful ways to die. I hope we don't lose site of this fact. They are the ones who deserve the sympathy. Next in line for paying the price would be the parents of these sweet babies. You say how "poor Brittany" will have the images of that day in her head forever? You don't think that the parents struggle with images of their own? The feelings of guilt for trusting someone who, obviously, didn't deserve the trust. They have to learn to cope with life without their baby girls in it. They too deserve sympathy. Then there are the families of these beautiful babies. What about the young family members who now have to learn to cope with death before they are old enough to understand it? Brittany "may" fall in line next but at this point, she doesn't deserve it until she comprehends the severity of her "bad judgement". I am not saying that there might not come a time when she desersves a little sympathy, but until she learns to feel remorse she doesn't deserve it. It seems to me that she should spend "some" time in jail so she has the time to think about her "bad judgment" and the impact on many, many people. No just herself!
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Seems she got of lucky and the manslaughter charges were dropped, she still faces charges of reckless endangerment.
Sorry, dude. It was a crime. They were left in her charge. She did not provide the necessary care due to negligence resulting in their deaths. I agree with "sick and tired". She should spend time in jail.
"Yes, Brittany is responsible for the deaths of two children, but what about the parents. I’m talking about Brittany and jenna’s parents and the parents of the other little girl. It seems to me that if you know your daughter is irresponsible, and lies on a daily basis, you would not leave her with small children. Brittany’s mother knew she was out all night. Yes, we all know that she was not at a slumber party doing little girl things, hanging out with good girls. I am sure that her mother was aware of this, too. Maggie’s mother was aware that Brittany was in no condition to babysit. I think that they should share the blame with her. If you as parents have failed to teach your children responsiblity, don’t expect miraculous results by giving them a crash course (forcing them to babysit)."
Sally,
You obviously don't know the heartache Maggie's parents endured to have her and that they would never intentionally put her in harms way. They knew this girl from the time she was little and had no reason not to trust that she was telling the truth that she was okay. Maggie's Mama gave her three chances to get out of babysitting and all three times she ASSURED her she was okay. She even gave her her cell # to call if she felt too tired. NOW she has to live with the constant turmoil of knowing she trusted someone who didn't deserve her trust. They live with this hell EVERYDAY so before you go judging them, think about how ridiculous that is. Someone who prayed for and wanted a baby so badly for so long, why the hell would they throw that away. Maggie's and Jenna parents are VICTIMS. They lost their children and their lives that day. They will never be the same. Having people such as you judge them only adds to their pain. They don't need it, they don't deserve it, so think the next time you write something such as that.
Were you in the court room?
You are incorrect on your definition of negligence. Negligence means that you neglected to proform a duty that you had. What you are talking about is an element of mens rea, that is, a mental state required for certian intentional crimes such as first degree murder. It is "not" a requirement for involuntary manslaughter. (hence "involuntary") Involuntary manslaughter requires EITHER a reckless disregaurd or gross neglegence. Thus, it isn't necessary that she knew her actions would cause death; rather, it is enough that she should have known that some harm could have resulted.
Yes, I have seen her out doing the things that people talk about.
How can YOU actually know her? Do YOU live with her? Do YOU talk with her on a daily basis. Or, did YOU just happen to overhear her feeling sorry for herself. It is obvious that you have no idea what YOU are talking about.
HOWEVER, this is not what happened in this case. She was sleeping off a drunken stupor from an all night party that she chose to attend
when she KNEW she had to babysit the next morning. She CHOOSE to go out drinking (and the last I checked it was illegal to drink at age 19) She lied about being okay, she assured Maggie's mother that she was perfectly fine, when Maggie's mother would have taken those girls and watched them in a heartbeat, like she did every other day. How do you think she feels knowing she chose to trust someone with her precious daughter that certainly wasn't worthy of that trust? Can you IMAGINE the living hell. No you cannot. Neither can I~Thank God.
She lied to the 911 operator, lied to the police, went to a dance club and asked other people to lie for her. If it was just as simple as putting a child down for a nap, she would have my heartfelt sympathies. But it isn't that simple. She never put those babies down for a nap, she fell asleep as soon as Maggie's mother went out the door. Which, by the way Mrs. Kovski instructed her to lock because Maggie could open doors. Jenna was so tiny, there is NO WAY she could have gotten out of that crib. HMMMMM let me see could Maggie have gotten her out???? The smartest, strongest and most agile 2-year-old in the world wouldn't be able to accomplish that task. Oh and furthermore, Maggie no longer took naps in the morning. So, her story (the one she decided to stick with at the moment) doesn't add up, now does it?
So you see, Just a Guy this story JUST doesn't make any sense. It isn't JUST a matter of a sweet young girl, who took a nap when the children were napping. She was a drunken, selfish liar.
She is also guilty of stealing, stealing from her family and stealing from the Kovskis. She stole their "Gift from God" that the went through hell to have and prayed to God to send to them. He did, and Brittany Steward took all that away. Do you know what her mood is on her MySpace. Blessed. She is blessed, because she is alive. Maggie and Jenna don't have that luxury. How Blessed do you think the Kovskis feel?
How in God's name ANYONE can feel that this is a crime JUST doesn't get it. Or they are as selfish and immature as she is. Or, in the Judge's case, JUST PLAIN DUMB!!!!!!!!!
Let us consider this: According to Maggie's mother, Maggie never took naps in the morning, and Jenna had never been able to climb out of her crib. In light of this, if she had placed Jenna in the crib, she would not have died. Who knows, maybe Maggie wouldn't have either. The so-called make shift bed of blankets on the floor mean nothing. They could have been thrown out of the crib by Jenna earlier because that's what chidren do. The house, garage, and yard that are always kept neat and tidy, had toys scattered from one end to the other not to mention all of the other things that were out of place, indicating that the two children had free run of the house for some time. Because the doors were not locked, which Mrs. Kovski had instructed Brittany to do, the children eventually wandered out into the yard. They played out in the yard for a while and then traveled almost two foot ball fields to the pond.
A more plausible story is that Brittany fell asleep on the couch shortly after Mrs. Kovski left because she had been out all night, demonstrating a blatant disregard for Jenna's and Maggie's safety.
What would have happened if she backed out at the last moment? What consequence would she have suffered then?
I am sure that now, that consequence seems very small compared to what has happened.
I know I made mistakes with my kids, and I was fortunate enough not to have anything fatal happen to them.
Chances are this young woman will never forget, but I cannot speak for her since I do not know her, and I can't judge her either. Everyone will have regrets for what they did or did not do on that day. It is easy to take all the anger, pain and rage and direct it at the person who was irresponsible. But, she is very young and is probably terrified and horrified of what she did not do on that day. Who would want to face it? Kids do dumb things. Dumb things that have tragic endings.
Sometimes very young children have walked out of their houses, even with the parents home, and found their way into a terrible situation. Who is to blame then? Why is everyone so eager to blame someone? Blame does no good. Hindsight is 20/20.
If she has lied, she may have reacted out of fear and loathing and not wanting to feel the pain of what she has done. Who would want to face it? Has anyone been receptive to her admitting the truth? Under these circumstances, I would think it would take some time to get at the real truth. Sounds like this young woman may have issues if she is partying all the time.
This may not be apparent to you or anyone else - maybe not even to herself since we as humans are so good at hiding our true feelings.
I hope you find a way to heal and forgive. To hold all of those feelings inside could eventually end up hurting you even more.
What if Brittany had never made it home, what if she hit some family on their way to school or daycare and she killed 1 person or every person. She never intended to kill anyone when she got into that car and decided to drive, but she did. I believe that is a crime, and not only would she be in jail for that she would have been charged with under age drinking. Nobody drinks and drives and intends on hurting anyone on that drive home but it happens. It should'nt because we all know that it is wrong but people do it anyway. Maybe we should start excussing those people because they did'nt mean it and they are going to have to live with it the rest of their lives. (The only reason that there was no alcohol in her system is because she showed up at home around 7 am and they did not take her blood until 5 pm, just before she went to her friends house to get ready to go out.)
I just heard on the news today that the person responsible for the fire at a bar a couple years ago that killed 100 people because he was careless with the bands special effects, was let out of jail. I am guessing that when he got up that day he did not say to himself that he was going to set a bar on fire and kill 100 people. It happened and I bet people are going to think twice before they do the fancy pyrotecnics in a small bar.
Maggie and Jenna died because she is irresponsible and did'nt have the common sense to either stay home, go home at a resonable hour, don't drink, or just say no I can't babysit.
Because she has no respect for her family, and stays out all night the night before she knows that she is supposed to babysit says volumes about her character. Or should I say lack of character.
The night that the girls drowned she was at not 1 but 2 bars trying to find the people who were at the party so that she could get them to lie for her. She never should have been let out of jail, I don't belive for one minute that she has followed any of the conditions of her release, according to one of her coworkers she has put a few notches on her belt, (I feel sorry for the guy who is the one forever or more than likely the one until someone better comes around). He is really getting sloppy seconds. I hope that the DA questions some of her coworkers and finds out just what kind of person she is.
To many bad things happed to children who depend on adults to take care of them, she needs to be made an example of so that the next thoughtless teenager that is going to be responsible for small children thinks twice about accepting the responsibility when they may not be in any condition to watch them.
Let me ask you, "just a guy". Have you been out partying with Brittany lately, engaging in the very conduct that contributed to the deaths of those two little girls? Are you of legal drinking age?
You seem to know her story (lies) pretty well.
It is not necessary that death or grievous bodily harm be actually inflicted to prove reckless endangerment.
Many people who are grieving over this - what exactly does that mean. People who know the family? Total strangers?
You know Brittany personally, and can attest to her lack of regard for human life? You have had conversations? She has committed other acts?
Again - people make mistakes. We are all human. There is not one of us on this earth that has not damaged something. Some of us are lucky enough that the mistakes we have made do not haunt us for the rest of our lives.
I am sure that a lot of people showed up the day after this happened. It doesn't mean that you know anything. Lynn has lost one daughter - not two. Brittany is still here, and let's not forget Becca and Mindy. Brittany may end up behind bars for a while, but she is still on this earth, and I'm sure that she will have visitation. Trust me, it will do her some good - slow her down a bit. As far as the grieving part goes - again, you do not know what you are talking about. Where do you get the idea that she is grieving? Trust me, she hasn't CRASHED yet - far from it. In her mind, she is completely innocent. This was merely an accident that she just happened to stumble upon, and everyone should feel sorry for her. In fact, most of the time, you would never know that anyone died if it wasn't common knowledge. As a matter of fact, the only time she does cry is when she is told she can't do something, and then she throws a temper tantrum (or when she thinks she is going to jail). She is very much a young child in many ways, and in my opinion, she should not have been watching those girls. Yes, you are right. She definitely needs help, but I don't see that happening any time soon. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Maybe, you can help her...May God help you if you try.
Who wouldn't grieve over this? I was at the funeral, and it was gut-wrenching. Everyone cried, and I mean EVERYONE. I still get tears in my eyes when I think about it. I hope this is over soon, and justice is served. Mrs Garda is right - there must be some form of restitution.
The issue isn't really whether she feels bad or not. Murderers can feel remorse. -Anyone- aside from sociopaths can feel remorse. That doesn't mean they aren't held accountable. Accident or not, remorseful or not, those are not the issues. We don't let people go in our system just because they 'feel bad now.'
Case in point, the man I'm divorcing hurt our daughter. She wouldnt stop crying so he tried to make her stop crying. When I found out about it, I had him put in jail immediately. Did he feel bad for it? Yes. Of course. Did he still need to suffer the consequences? Yes. Because if he hadn't I never would've been able to look my daughter in the eye. It would've been like excusing him for hurting her. (She's okay now btw, none the worse for wear. It's been several months.) If the mothers of these deceased children, even brittany's own mother were to just let it go, it would be--in my eyes--devaluing the lives of the deceased. That's my humble opinion. Do with it what you will.
Brittany is out on a $5000 bond at the moment.
I have to say that in some capacity I have a bit of blame for he rmother. There are things she could've done to prevent her child ending up like this. A tighter reign, or spending more time with her...I really don't know because I don't know the family situation. But there seems to have been a point when -someone- dropped the ball with her.
Of course at 19 it doesnt matter because right now she's an adult and she's responsible for herself, so don't think I'm putting it off on the mom. This just makes me wonder, what with everything that's happening.
Part of me hopes this whole "not caring" thing is just her being 19, and stubborn, and "not caring" because everyone is telling her she should.
I'm surprised people allow her to come drinking with them after all this. I suppose we'll just have to see what happens. There really isn't going to be a happy ending.
I expect her to turn on her mother and the other girl's mother too, which is sad. It's the only defense she has, and it will more than likely be used.
I kinda wish I could talk to you privately. You seem like a smart guy. Er. I assume you're a guy anyway.
Mrs. Garda, don't believe his crap.
I know Brittany too. How DARE YOU say that she feels no remorse? idiot. Brittany knows what she did was wrong...she is not the monster you little twits on here are making her out to be...
I don't know if she feels remorse or not, as I don't know her personally. Since you do, IS she still drinking and carrying on in the fashion that led to those babies' deaths? If so, then my point is valid.
Whether or not she feels remorse, she did something negligent that caused the death of two babies. Whether or not she's sorry, she does need to pay for that. It's not really a matter of her feelings.
She does, in fact, know what she did was wrong, but she doesn't demonstrate any feeling at all, unless it involves trying to prove her innocence. I know her better than you do. You are the idiot!! We are not portraying her as a monster. Her own conduct is giving her away on that one. I don't have a personal vendetta against this girl at all. I am just stating truthful observations. Yes, Mrs Garda, I am telling the truth.
That shows just how much you don't know.
At this point I"m going to sit back and watch for a while, while you two sort it out. My Myspace is linked to my name, so feel free to use it if either of you want to talk to me one on one. Especially you, Lee. You have me curious. ^_^
If you don't go out drinking with her, how can you say that is what she is doing?
I am not one of the girls on her myspace...and by the way, you still haven't told me who you are...
I heard about this site and wanted to jump in to see what people had to say about the subject...I didn't realize this was a hate mongering, personal attack site! wow. Really, I can't believe some of the things written on here...It seems as if there are definitely people (especially in the beginning of this string) who simply have personal issues with Brittany. Others seem to be experts on her feelings...
What is really bothering me is that some are stating their personal beliefs as facts.
I also agree with momma brown...in reading the latest posts, I do not understand why those people were banned and not others before them...
As for Lee, well, no he says he isnt a friend, but that doesnt mean he's not part of the local scene. Maybe he sees her out and about. He said he heard from Brittany's own mouth what she's up to these days. He could've overheard her. In all honesty I don't know for sure. I'm speculating. I'm assuming from his comments though that he does live in the same town, and he is in contact with the same people she is, even if he's not directly friends with her.
Who said she was out having a good time?!!
I believe Brittany was in shock...I believe she wanted to be with her friends...it was a stupid thing to do, but we ARE talking about a 19 year old...
And the problem, Just, is that everything she's done so far has been "a stupid mistake". And that one, going out to a club, in shock or not, that night, was a very very harmful one to both her reputation and her case. I don't know if she's shown remorse or not, but in the public eye, you have to admit that it looks bad that she went out like that.
if they are not friends, how would he know what she is thinking or feeling???
That being said, I don't think anyone can know for sure what's going on in anyone else's mind. But from what can be read about her, a lot of it is fair assumption to make.
The reason I question his opinions is that I would never show my true feelings to anyone other than a friend...so how can he say he knows her ture feelings? see what I mean?
and I am truly, truly sorry for your loss
how well do you know Brittany?
I simply stated that I think I know who you are
Food for thought, a lot of times we're blinded by the people we love. This is why drug addicts can allow their children or SO's to live with them so long. To an outside observer it's obvious what should be done. To people in the thick of it, they tend to be not so sure, or sure that their feelings are right.
It's sweet that her friends want to defend her. I just worry that this particular caring might be misplaced. I worry, if the things said about her ARE true, that they could all become pawns for her. If it isn't true, then it's nice she has friends like that.